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reading The Time Paradox ( Zimbardo, Boyd)
among other things, they distinguish bw event and clock time.
It occrd to me that Genesis describes a situation whr this separation had been created.

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1.1. In the beginning God created the conciousness and the void.
1.2. Now the consciousness was unformed and faceless, and no idea ever rippled its surface. And the spirit of God hovered over the void.
1.3. And God said: 'Let there be thought.' And there was thought.
1.4. And God saw the thought, that it was good; and God divided the thought from the nothingness.
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A few thousand years ago an opening to a story like this one would inspire an absolute awe:
1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2. Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters. 3 And God said: 'Let there be light.' And there was light.
The immenseness of the act must had been felt stunning to the people of that age. Just imagine - void earth, deep darkness, and all of a sudden light. Created at will. Out of nothing. Totally awesome.
But now? Not that impressive. So, what would God have to create today to equally impress a modern audience? What would be an event that would blow our minds away with an incomprehensible enormity?
In the beginning God created the Matrix. The Matrix was unformed and void, and no thought ever rippled its surface. And God said: Let there be consciousness .
No. Let's try this:
In the beginning God created the conciousness. And the consciousness was unformed and void, and no idea ever rippled its surface. And God said: Let there be thought.
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Now the LORD said unto Abram: 'Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto the land that I will show thee.

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing.

And I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse; and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.'
Genesis, 12:1-3
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And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayst freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for on the day that thou eatest of it thou shalt surely die.

Genesis. 2.16.
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And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

Genesis. 1:5.
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And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Genesis, 1:3-4.

Good night

Jun. 22nd, 2006 10:47 pm
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My favorite passage from Genesis(1:2):
And the earth was without form and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.

You can almost touch this incredible opportunity to create a whole new world. Days and days of inventive bliss are just ahead of you. This humongous void is about to become what you think it should be. No hesitation. No anticipation of a failure, disobedience, or death. The beginning itself. Oh, man, I wish I were there!
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It's interesting to trace moments in the Torah where Lord God shows emotions. For example, the days of creation definitely make him feel good about what is going on on earth (e.g. Gen. 1.31). Remarkably, episodes with the forbidden fruit, expulsion of Man from Eden, and Qayin's crime leave him emotionally unaffected, as if everything comes as expected, or he doesn't attach too much significance to the events.

The next time Lord God shows his feelings is before the flood, when "And the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that all the impulse of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord repented that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." (Gen. 6.5).
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It looks like, according to Torah, that the whole purpose of humanity is to figure out the most efficient way to use the Earth's resources while producing more and more humans. As if The Lord God was trying to figure out how many people can be sustained by the universe he created. So, the people that follows his/her rules have a competitive advantage in the marketplace of life.
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And the Lord appeared to him by the terbinth of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; and he raised his eyes and looked, and , lo, three men stood by him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself to the ground, and said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant; let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree; and I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort your hearts; after that you shall pass on: seeing that you are come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.

..And he took butter , and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they ate. And they said to him, Where is Sara thy wife? and he said, Behold, in the tent. And he said, I will certainly return to thee at this season; and, lo, Sara thy wife shall have a son. And Sara heard in the tent door, which was behind him.

another communication experiment. first the angel, now the three men.
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It appears that the knowledge of good and evil relates to one's ability to sustain or destroy a particular [eco-]system. For example, the ability to procreate uncontrollably acquired by man and his wife by eating the forbidden fruit would destroy the garden of Eden. It would also remove control over procreation from the Lord God's exclusive domain, i.e. constitute loss of a system control point. From the Lord God's perspective this is evil, because he created mankind, among other tasks, "to replenish the earth". Unfortunately, the system to ensure this outcome without controlling the rate of procreation directly had not been introduced at the time.
From the woman's point of view "the tree was good for food", which is an indication that she was not aware of the impact of her actions on the super-system, i.e. the garden.
also see http://www.livejournal.com/users/watertank/577718.html - "all the impulse of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
On the other hand the act of creation that lasted the first six days was "good" ( see http://www.livejournal.com/users/watertank/571368.html )

- need to consider implications for evaluating control mechanisms, including economic vs moral incentives (see e.g. Freakanomics)
- search for instances of the word "evil" in the Lord God's speech. cf with other occurrences.
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So far, it is clear that the Lord God has difficulties communicating with humans. Therefore he has to talk to people who are not necessarily perfect ( whatever this means in his world) but to people that are capable of hearing him. If he thinks that this ability is hereditary, then his promises to increase the number of descendants of such a person make perfect sense, because, looking into the future, if there's no communication/understanding, the chances of uncoerced compliance are very low.
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And God said to Avraham, As for Saray thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Saray, but Sara shall her name be. And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: and I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall issue from her. Then Avraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born to him that is a hundred years old? and shall Sara, that is ninety years old, give birth? And Avraham said to God, O that Yishma'el might live before thee! And God said, Sara thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Yizhaq: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Yishmae'el I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceeedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Yizhaq, whom Sara shall bear to thee at this time next year.
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And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God to thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give to thee, and to thy seed after tee, the land in which thou dost sojourn, all the land of Kena'an, for an ever lasting possession; and I will be their God. And God said to Avraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every manchild among you shall be circumcised. And you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant between me and you.

remember the covenant with Noah. at the time the Lord God set a token for himself, now he creates a reminder for every male descendant of Avraham, i.e. a self-replicating rule trigger.
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And when Avram was ninety nine years old, the Lord appeard to Avram, and said to him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Avram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

"be perfect", what a requirement! Why does the Lord keep offering his covenant? As if he's desperate for human followers capable of believing in him.
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Gen 16.7 And an angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

the first mention of an angel. KJV version says "the angel". who/what is an angel? how it is recognized? the Lord speaks directly to Avram, but uses an angel to communicate to others. need to check.

Gen 16.11 And the angel of the Lord said to her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Yishma'el; because the Lord has heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

why the because clause?
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And they said, Come, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach to heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be withheld from them, which they have schemed to do. Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the Lord scattered them abroad from there upon the face of all the earth: and they seased to build the city.

what is there to withhold?
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And God spoke to Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, And behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; and with every living creture that is with you, of the birds, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that came out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living crature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

clear transition from creation/synthesis to maintenance mode. it appears that, while Noah was travelling in his ark, God spent some time re-thinking the situation, and made some decisions wrt earth and living creatures. blood laws, covenant not to destroy, and a reminder (visible to himself and living creatures). the core notion here is the realization that the scale of the system requires an approach not based on direct intervention.
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speaking to Noah: And as for you, be fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the aearth, and multiply in it.

note: no different from his earlier blessing to all other creatures (see Genesis 1,22). the requirement to replenish the earth is dropped. did God give up on humans, and/or decided that the new law is sufficient enough to guide them?

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