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Прочитал комментарии к записи [livejournal.com profile] avva о том, что можно, а что нельзя называть камышом. Mнения, естественно, расходятся. Все зависит от среды общения, или точнее community of practice, где проис-ходит разговор. Например, если человек хочет, чтобы его поняли ботаники, то он скажет или напишет "рогоз", а если не-ботаники, то "камыш".

Подумал, что communities of practice совершенно хайдегеровское понятие. Раньше считал, что есть не просто отдельные люди, а человеко-миры. А тут еще получается, что есть сообщества-миры. В каждом свой язык, обычаи, и правила. Например, xkcd в большинстве случаев мне кажется юмором социальных инвалидов, которым нужны костыли, чтобы выйти в мир, где я живу. С другой стороны, в их мир мне даже на костылях не попасть. Но у нас есть некоторые общие слова. камыш. воздух. компьютер. Хотя раньше компьютером называли людей, которые делают рассчеты. Постепенно они превратились в машины и стали шутить на языке xkcd.
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Situated between the private world of the family and the official world of the state, the public sphere was a forum in which previously isolated individuals could come together to exchange information, ideas and criticism. Whether communicating with each other at long range by subscribing to the same periodicals, or meeting face to face in a coffeehouse or in one of the new voluntary associations, such as a reading club or Masonic lodge, the public acquired a collective weight far greater than the sum of its individual members. It was from the public sphere that a new source of authority emerged to challenge the opinion-makers of the old regime: public opinion.
Blanning, Tim. The pursuit of Glory: Europe, 1648-1815. ISBN 978-0-670-06320-8
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This is, after all, what writing is, a form of communication which allows the two communicating parties to be spatially and temorarlly separated.


Ideas: A History of Thought and Invention, from Fire to Freud. p.77.
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"What Jesus really contributed was a purification of the old Law through the elimination of those precepts that still required hatred for one's enemies, contempt for strangers, and vengeance for personal offenses."

The Life of Jesus, by Marcello Craveri. p. 187

cf. Buddha & Socrates (p 188).

Is it related to different stages of development, e.g. early survival vs distribution? The Hebrews of the early Torah had to separate themselves from the pagan world. The Hebrews of the diaspora and the early Christians had to cope with a much bigger world. It is much easier to create new connections with love, rather than formal interfaces.
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Torah makes a fascinating reading from a system analysis point of view. It shows The Lord God trying, ever since the forbidden tree episode, to maintain control of a system that has its own free will. Add to it persistent communications problems and you get a picture of a world on the edge of chaos.

The troubles start from the very beginning. Barely eight days into the creation process he loses control over the Mankind's ability to multiply. Something that he took for granted, i.e. the Man's obedience to his God's orders, is taken away by a trivial provocation by the Snake. The control system has no defense whatsoever! And, as the theory would have it predicted, it breaks at the interfaces.


It would be really cool to write a book on it. Something like, "The Lord God: his life as an inventor." The intelligent design crowd gonna love it! :))
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And the Lord appeared to him by the terbinth of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; and he raised his eyes and looked, and , lo, three men stood by him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself to the ground, and said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant; let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree; and I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort your hearts; after that you shall pass on: seeing that you are come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.

..And he took butter , and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they ate. And they said to him, Where is Sara thy wife? and he said, Behold, in the tent. And he said, I will certainly return to thee at this season; and, lo, Sara thy wife shall have a son. And Sara heard in the tent door, which was behind him.

another communication experiment. first the angel, now the three men.
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So far, it is clear that the Lord God has difficulties communicating with humans. Therefore he has to talk to people who are not necessarily perfect ( whatever this means in his world) but to people that are capable of hearing him. If he thinks that this ability is hereditary, then his promises to increase the number of descendants of such a person make perfect sense, because, looking into the future, if there's no communication/understanding, the chances of uncoerced compliance are very low.
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And God said to Avraham, As for Saray thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Saray, but Sara shall her name be. And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: and I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall issue from her. Then Avraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born to him that is a hundred years old? and shall Sara, that is ninety years old, give birth? And Avraham said to God, O that Yishma'el might live before thee! And God said, Sara thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Yizhaq: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Yishmae'el I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceeedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Yizhaq, whom Sara shall bear to thee at this time next year.
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Gen 16.7 And an angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

the first mention of an angel. KJV version says "the angel". who/what is an angel? how it is recognized? the Lord speaks directly to Avram, but uses an angel to communicate to others. need to check.

Gen 16.11 And the angel of the Lord said to her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Yishma'el; because the Lord has heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

why the because clause?
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And they said, Come, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach to heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be withheld from them, which they have schemed to do. Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the Lord scattered them abroad from there upon the face of all the earth: and they seased to build the city.

what is there to withhold?
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i can now receive a letter faster than s/he can write it to me. but it only applies to personal letters. it doesn't cost her/him anything to send the letter. in the meantime, the ratio of letters per addressee has increased. this means that the ratio of personal letters to non-personal ones has decreased. which means electronic messaging leads to further increase in non-personal communications, i.e. the process of standardisation of human interaction started(? rather enabled, facilitated) by the invention of writing/printing/etc continues.

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